Richard Dawkins Discusses Quantum Theory

	Duration: 241 seconds Upload Time: 06-11-13 02:01:32 User: theone3 :::: Favorites
Description: Essentially what he's saying in this video is, in a complicated manner, "you can't prove that god exists". I'd like to pose this question as an intellectual challenge - Prove that you exist. Prove someone else exists in the same fashion. Scientific discourse relies upon the trust between people just as religion relies on the trust between a person and god. Scientific discourse itself is a web of proofs built on fundamental faith in proof and humanity. Take the scientific law for example - any scientific law. Why do things follow laws? It may seem intuitive that a human should follow a law, but why should light have a describable and consistent behavior. If it is comprehensible, it has to make sense. Why? Another - If I provide a reason, say e=mc^2, then demonstrate proofs, and it works, is that proof of the reason or of the predition? Or is it of no consequence to it? Sure, you can falisfy things (i.e. I know that all cats aren't green because I've seen a cat that isn't) but isn't it arrogant to say that no cats are green because no-one has ever seen a green cat? As a person who has studies philosophies in science, I can assure you that this man is just as arrogant as any evangelist in his assertions. "Genesis could not be accurate hence god is not real" - for example - is the most twisted logic I've ever seen. For over 1500 years the scripture has been translated, retranslated, modified, censored, uncensored, changed, editorialized, etc. Probably there are many parts of the Bible that are not accurate at all. If you look at the dead sea scrolls, they paint an entirely different picture of Genesis all together. And yet, these atheists use "Genesis could not be accurate hence god must not be real" as serious conditional logic. Frankly that's just as bad as the evangelical crap espoused by fundamentalist Christians and Muslims. If you want to be agnostic - go ahead. But don't be militant about atheism using science - as it degrades science. Good science is about "how?", good religion is about "why?". Science is not concerned with providing logical proofs of the non-existence of gods. Science is not concerned with providing a theory of the universe that makes intuitive or real sense. Science is not concerned with telling stories. Science is concerned with the creation of models to be used for a function because they describe HOW some observed behavior functions in the common construct of scientific endeavor. Share with friends
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ZwolfZki ::: Favorites I'm sorry manzed... I thought by using the past tense that I'd indicated I was speaking, well, of the past.. But, then again... I'll try harder next time... & I'm sure your vast knowledge of Physics includes instances of contentious issues still alive & well.. Thanks for the helpful regurgitation of the usual point about QED being "the most accurately-tested physical theory"... kudos for that enlightenment! 07-07-06 14:43:52 _____________________________________________________
TheForce74 ::: Favorites ??? I didn't talk about free will. Anyway, you mean just because we can influence the mechanics of a car that eliminates the possibility of a driver? That doesn't sound plausible to me. I know that I exist, that I am more than what I can see in the mirror because I can experience it every day. And my inability to prove it to you tells more about the current state of science than about reality. 07-07-12 15:06:41 _____________________________________________________
manzed ::: Favorites Again, your metaphor doesn't fly - advanced electronics are already able to recognize street, obstacles and other cars as well as moving pedestrians. The automobile companies are working on a self navigating car already which makes the driver redundant. "Inability to prove" - until we have knowledge some tend to believe. I prever to say that I just don't know yet. 07-07-12 16:32:02 _____________________________________________________
TheForce74 ::: Favorites Actually it does fly, you just refuse to look up. In my analogy the human mind is the intelligence behind the curtain that you dismiss. You believe given enough time (how much do you want trillions of billions of years?) the street, the car, the navigation electronics plus the GPS satellites will accidentally evolve by itself and share the same time and space. But you will never call it magic, no no no, it is just... now comes the word....COINCIDENCE!!! COINCIDENCE/CHANCE the name of your god. 07-07-12 21:39:20 _____________________________________________________
TheForce74 ::: Favorites I have no problem with that, but please... you BELIEVE in CHANCE others BELIEVE in GOD. Science has no right to crown itself as the absolute instance that can decide between right and wrong. Religion once did the same thing and we know where this led us to. If we don't learn to tolerate different views -- that goes for the fanatics on both sides - we will destroy ourselves. 07-07-12 21:44:41 _____________________________________________________
manzed ::: Favorites wtf you're talking about? I believe in chance??? I believe nothing until I have enough evidence and sorry - there is no evidence for the "god" chance or any other god. Chance plays a role in Evolution, but it's not what drives it. You can believe what you want - I prefer to know, that's all. 07-07-13 00:48:15 _____________________________________________________
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TheForce74 ::: Favorites Sorry for implying to know what you believe in, but sometimes the limited space takes it's toll. I felt forced to forgo basic forms of politeness to shorten my text and simplify that case. Please replace the word "you" with "many of the fundamental materialists"... 07-07-13 03:08:12 _____________________________________________________
pontolones ::: Favorites to the uploader of this video and your comment section: "Science is not concerned with providing a theory of the universe that makes intuitive or real sense. Science is not concerned with telling stories. " are you really that dense? just turn on the discovery channel or the science channel for a minute. many sectors of science are ALL ABOUT making a story of why we exsist and what happened millions of years ago. 07-07-16 22:46:15 _____________________________________________________
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