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Russian Civil War White Movement

Duration: 02:34 minutes
Upload Time: 2007-02-07 17:27:01
User: vonPeterhof
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Description:

I created this video to commemorate the White Guard, the alliance of anti-Bolshevik forces of the Russian Civil War (1917-1922). People of different political views (monarchists, liberal democrats, moderate socialists, etc.) united to destroy the threat of Bolshevism. Dedicated to the most prominent leaders of the movement - Alexander Kolchak, Lavr Kornilov, Anton Denikin and Peter von Wrangel.

Comments

vetla1919 ::: Favorites  2007-09-20 14:19:54

I didnt know that. The Ungern-Sternbergs were one of the most influecial baltic-german families in Estonia. He was a strange man indeed. Yes, the fashists probably would have come to power in the 1930.-ies. And probably the war even would have happened almost the same way.
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vonPeterhof ::: Favorites  2007-09-19 17:08:02

I agree that moderate socialists wouldn't last for long - any kind of socialism eventually discredits itself. And BTW I know that the correct version is von Ungern-Sternberg, but he himself insisted on being called Ungern von Sternberg, or simply baron Ungern. Strange bloke.
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vetla1919 ::: Favorites  2007-09-19 03:42:32

It was von Ungern-Sternberg actually, a guy from Estonia again. The whites represented the past and nobody wanted to go back there. I dont think it would be m.socialistic for long. Our parliament had also a social-democrat majority, but the next one was much more right-wing already. Cant agree more with your attitude there.
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vonPeterhof ::: Favorites  2007-09-18 17:54:09

What would have happened if the Whites won? No one will ever know for sure now. Maybe the Constituent Assembly would have brought the SRs to power and Russia would develop as a "moderate" socialist republic. Maybe the generals would have installed a military regime and restored the monarchy like in Spain. In both scenarios fascists could come to power. But to me fascism and communism are equally bad and while the Whites did not guarantee fascism, the Reds made communism their main goal.
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vonPeterhof ::: Favorites  2007-09-18 17:35:49

Also, the Whites did not have ideological uniformity, so the people got mixed messages from them, while from the Reds it was mostly quite clear. That was a big advantage for the Reds, as both sides used terror and looting, but the Reds seemed to have a "better reason".
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